Comments on: Eleanor Holmes Norton Pondering Photography Rights Legislation http://www.stationstops.com/2008/06/04/eleanor-holmes-norton-pondering-photography-rights-legislation/ Metro-North Train Schedules and NYC Commuting Blog Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:39:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Alan Clifford http://www.stationstops.com/2008/06/04/eleanor-holmes-norton-pondering-photography-rights-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-1111 Alan Clifford Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:16:00 +0000 http://www.stationstops.com/?p=406#comment-1111 It is a problem in the UK as well and Austin Mitchell, M.P., has submitted an early day motion to the British Parliament http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=35375 I have emailed him to suggest there might be some benefit in contacting Eleanor Holmes Norton on the subject and wanted to email her as well, but as you point out, her on-line communication system is for her constituents only. Anti-terrorism is presumably the rational for the anti-photo obsession but, as Bruce Schneier has pointed out http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/06/the_war_on_phot.html terrorists don't seem to take photographs. I urge all your readers to contact their government representatives to ask them to enable legislation or, at least provide guidelines, to stop pseudo-policemen and even policemen from harassing innocent photographers. Alan Clifford It is a problem in the UK as well and Austin Mitchell, M.P., has submitted an early day motion to the British Parliament http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=35375

I have emailed him to suggest there might be some benefit in contacting Eleanor Holmes Norton on the subject and wanted to email her as well, but as you point out, her on-line communication system is for her constituents only.

Anti-terrorism is presumably the rational for the anti-photo obsession but, as Bruce Schneier has pointed out http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/06/the_war_on_phot.html
terrorists don’t seem to take photographs.

I urge all your readers to contact their government representatives to ask them to enable legislation or, at least provide guidelines, to stop pseudo-policemen and even policemen from harassing innocent photographers.

Alan Clifford

]]> By: Chris (Admin) http://www.stationstops.com/2008/06/04/eleanor-holmes-norton-pondering-photography-rights-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-1109 Chris (Admin) Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:10:57 +0000 http://www.stationstops.com/?p=406#comment-1109 anulla: Check out this story and the comments: http://www.stationstops.com/2008/03/18/mta-ignored-by-employees-after-insisting-do-not-harass-photographers/ irregardless of the policy, any private property which is used as public space is supposedly protected by 1st amendment for photography, but im no lawyer ymmv. anulla:

Check out this story and the comments:

http://www.stationstops.com/2008/03/18/mta-ignored-by-employees-after-insisting-do-not-harass-photographers/

irregardless of the policy, any private property which is used as public space is supposedly protected by 1st amendment for photography, but im no lawyer ymmv.

]]> By: annulla http://www.stationstops.com/2008/06/04/eleanor-holmes-norton-pondering-photography-rights-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 annulla Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:24:23 +0000 http://www.stationstops.com/?p=406#comment-1108 Chris, want to give us a link to a site where we can find the official policy, so we can print it, too? Chris, want to give us a link to a site where we can find the official policy, so we can print it, too?

]]> By: Chris (Admin) http://www.stationstops.com/2008/06/04/eleanor-holmes-norton-pondering-photography-rights-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 Chris (Admin) Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:25:47 +0000 http://www.stationstops.com/?p=406#comment-1044 MTA attempted to ban photography in 2004 but realized they would lose the fight in court, so they now permit it 'officially'. 'unofficially' they have security harass you until you stop, because 95% will. If you are friendly and disclose to them you are aware of the policy (I bring a printed copy with me), they will generally back off. MTA attempted to ban photography in 2004 but realized they would lose the fight in court, so they now permit it ‘officially’.

‘unofficially’ they have security harass you until you stop, because 95% will.

If you are friendly and disclose to them you are aware of the policy (I bring a printed copy with me), they will generally back off.

]]> By: Stamford Talk http://www.stationstops.com/2008/06/04/eleanor-holmes-norton-pondering-photography-rights-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-1038 Stamford Talk Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:37:30 +0000 http://www.stationstops.com/?p=406#comment-1038 Wow, that is ridiculous. WHY would photography be banned? You don't need a license to take pictures... I guess since 9-11, guards feel like they are preventing terrorism by stopping people who might be scouting out places to bomb... I think they did have that ban in effect after 9-11, didn't they? Wasn't there a no filming in the NYC Subway rule at one point? We don't need to live in a police state, though. A terrorist doesn't need to take photos; I'm sure they have sneakier ways. Wow, that is ridiculous. WHY would photography be banned? You don’t need a license to take pictures…
I guess since 9-11, guards feel like they are preventing terrorism by stopping people who might be scouting out places to bomb… I think they did have that ban in effect after 9-11, didn’t they? Wasn’t there a no filming in the NYC Subway rule at one point?
We don’t need to live in a police state, though. A terrorist doesn’t need to take photos; I’m sure they have sneakier ways.

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