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	<title>Comments on: Why the FDA Deliberately Poisoned Vicodin With Acetaminophen</title>
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		<title>By: Bianca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bianca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rango- I am 17 years old and know about the effects of acetaminophen. you either don&#039;t read tylenol or other pain killer labels or you lack communication skills with your doctor, because he or she should have told you all the risks involved in taking vicodin- right after you asked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rango- I am 17 years old and know about the effects of acetaminophen. you either don&#8217;t read tylenol or other pain killer labels or you lack communication skills with your doctor, because he or she should have told you all the risks involved in taking vicodin- right after you asked.</p>
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		<title>By: Rango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I have been taking vicodin for several years and knew about acetaminophen in it but I had no idea that acetaminophen does to a liver.  NOT EVERYONE KNOWS IT&quot;S DAMAGING!  Who cares about the addicts when it&#039;s poisoning the good people and elderly, that&#039;s Fucked like everything in America!  America is backwards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, I have been taking vicodin for several years and knew about acetaminophen in it but I had no idea that acetaminophen does to a liver.  NOT EVERYONE KNOWS IT&#8221;S DAMAGING!  Who cares about the addicts when it&#8217;s poisoning the good people and elderly, that&#8217;s Fucked like everything in America!  America is backwards!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no secret that the reason acetaminophen is mixed with hydrocodone is to discourage abuse. As someone in the medical field, Vicodin abuse is a terribly rampant problem. I worked in a pharmacy for 3 years before attending medical school. We were a 24 hour pharmacy at a large chain grocery store/drug store. We were actually the company&#039;s biggest retail store in their chain. Every day after midnight, the ER would release a veritable army of Vicodin addicts. Rather they were selling or abusing, they were clear to spot. This may sound judgmental, but it is not. I don&#039;t judge people based solely on their appearance, but when I can see looking through their profile that they hit different ER&#039;s and different ER docs 2-3 times a week for various stomach &quot;pains&quot; and cold like symptoms, something is up. And the damn ER docs just pump them out with an antibiotic and 20 or so tabs of Vicodin. This is just to show you how easily it is to get this drug as is. Oxycodone is a completely different story because of its C-II classification. Without going into much detail, C-II drugs (Ritalin is a common example, Fentanyl which is another pain reliever is another) are very highly regulated and much more difficult to get. This in contrast to anyone&#039;s ability to walk into an ER, fake a stomach ache and pick up 20 Vic&#039;s may help you see how much more dangerous Vicodin actually is to the general public. 

For those using Vicodin genuinely, then they have been counseled on the dangers of overdose of Acetaminophen. For those abusing Vicoden, I&#039;m sure they have been warned at one point or another, but ignore the warnings because of their addiction to the drug. Vicodin, being a highly habit-forming drug, can easily lead to abuse, even amongst well-meaning users. But for most people, the idea that abusing it highly will lead to liver damage helps persuade them from abusing the drug. Then there are those in society who are going to abuse this drug and others no matter what the consequences. These people are killing their bodies regardless, likely with other drugs. So I feel that the good of including acetaminophen with hydrocodone in Vicodin far outweighs what really amounts to zero negatives, because those abusing the drug and harming their livers are going to follow abusive, body-damaging behaviors anyways.

That being said, combos of the drugs with far less acetaminophen have been made for precisely your argument. And doctors worried about prescribing to potential abusers should use these formulations instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no secret that the reason acetaminophen is mixed with hydrocodone is to discourage abuse. As someone in the medical field, Vicodin abuse is a terribly rampant problem. I worked in a pharmacy for 3 years before attending medical school. We were a 24 hour pharmacy at a large chain grocery store/drug store. We were actually the company&#8217;s biggest retail store in their chain. Every day after midnight, the ER would release a veritable army of Vicodin addicts. Rather they were selling or abusing, they were clear to spot. This may sound judgmental, but it is not. I don&#8217;t judge people based solely on their appearance, but when I can see looking through their profile that they hit different ER&#8217;s and different ER docs 2-3 times a week for various stomach &#8220;pains&#8221; and cold like symptoms, something is up. And the damn ER docs just pump them out with an antibiotic and 20 or so tabs of Vicodin. This is just to show you how easily it is to get this drug as is. Oxycodone is a completely different story because of its C-II classification. Without going into much detail, C-II drugs (Ritalin is a common example, Fentanyl which is another pain reliever is another) are very highly regulated and much more difficult to get. This in contrast to anyone&#8217;s ability to walk into an ER, fake a stomach ache and pick up 20 Vic&#8217;s may help you see how much more dangerous Vicodin actually is to the general public. </p>
<p>For those using Vicodin genuinely, then they have been counseled on the dangers of overdose of Acetaminophen. For those abusing Vicoden, I&#8217;m sure they have been warned at one point or another, but ignore the warnings because of their addiction to the drug. Vicodin, being a highly habit-forming drug, can easily lead to abuse, even amongst well-meaning users. But for most people, the idea that abusing it highly will lead to liver damage helps persuade them from abusing the drug. Then there are those in society who are going to abuse this drug and others no matter what the consequences. These people are killing their bodies regardless, likely with other drugs. So I feel that the good of including acetaminophen with hydrocodone in Vicodin far outweighs what really amounts to zero negatives, because those abusing the drug and harming their livers are going to follow abusive, body-damaging behaviors anyways.</p>
<p>That being said, combos of the drugs with far less acetaminophen have been made for precisely your argument. And doctors worried about prescribing to potential abusers should use these formulations instead.</p>
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		<title>By: StationStops</title>
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		<dc:creator>StationStops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - yes it is very conspiratorial but I make it clear I am not a doctor and this is all TTBOMK and welcomed professional opinion - maybe someone knows something I don&#039;t and its not a conspiracy at all - I would welcome that information!

Dave - I agree addicts are of course entirely responsible for their actions, but poisoning addicts deliberately is an irresponsible act in itself.

I also do not agree all prescription drug users should be responsible for researching their drugs - thats what doctors are for. Pharmacology is an extremely complex and moving target even doctors must stay on top of.

Yes if you are otherwise healthy and able you should research, but many Vicodin patients are eldery, very sick, have no resources or family, some are illiterate - they should be able to rely on the FDA and doctors acting in their best interest.

As it stands, addicts have made access to pharmaceuticals an growing logistical burden for the elderly and sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; yes it is very conspiratorial but I make it clear I am not a doctor and this is all TTBOMK and welcomed professional opinion &#8211; maybe someone knows something I don&#8217;t and its not a conspiracy at all &#8211; I would welcome that information!</p>
<p>Dave &#8211; I agree addicts are of course entirely responsible for their actions, but poisoning addicts deliberately is an irresponsible act in itself.</p>
<p>I also do not agree all prescription drug users should be responsible for researching their drugs &#8211; thats what doctors are for. Pharmacology is an extremely complex and moving target even doctors must stay on top of.</p>
<p>Yes if you are otherwise healthy and able you should research, but many Vicodin patients are eldery, very sick, have no resources or family, some are illiterate &#8211; they should be able to rely on the FDA and doctors acting in their best interest.</p>
<p>As it stands, addicts have made access to pharmaceuticals an growing logistical burden for the elderly and sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris (Admin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris (Admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marina, dont panic, just talk to your doctor.</description>
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		<title>By: marina</title>
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		<dc:creator>marina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS SCARES ME I&#039;M ON HYDROCODONE  SOR MULTIPLE SCRLROSIS AND RA  I ONLY TAKE WHAT IM SIPPOSED TO BUT IM ON THE MAXIMUM DOSAGE  MY LIVER HAS NEVER BEEN CHECKED IN 7 YEARS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS SCARES ME I&#8217;M ON HYDROCODONE  SOR MULTIPLE SCRLROSIS AND RA  I ONLY TAKE WHAT IM SIPPOSED TO BUT IM ON THE MAXIMUM DOSAGE  MY LIVER HAS NEVER BEEN CHECKED IN 7 YEARS</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called &quot;cold water extraction.&quot; Look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called &#8220;cold water extraction.&#8221; Look it up.</p>
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