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MTA vs StationStops: 20 Pieces of Bad Press For MTA To Date

August 31st, 2009 by Chris (Admin)3 Comments
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For those of you just tuning in, here is a summary of the press coverage of StationStops vs MTA.

StationStops welcomes public awareness of MTA’s actions through the media and can be contacted here to answer questions on the latest status.

The New York Post
MTA Demands Its Piece Of The Piephone

Commenter georgesinc: “The train schedule is a public property and, of course, a public record. isn’t the info available on a web page for free? what’s wrong with selling an app that people have the option to buy as long as it has a disclaimer.”



The New York Times Online via ReadWriteWeb
NY Transportation Authority Cites Schedules as Copyrighted Material

“Judging by StationStop sales and the public outcry for Schoenfeld, customers want a better way to access their transportation information and they don’t care whether it’s city-run, state-run or citizen-driven.”



amNY
MTA looks for a cut from mobile phone applications

Nearly 40 transit agencies in the U.S.- including the systems in Washington, D.C., Philadelphia and Boston – have released the information for developers to freely use through a Google transit feed. Many of the agencies argue that it drives ridership and relieves them of the burden of creating on-line applications.

“Why isn’t that train data available? The public needs this”

-City Councilwoman Gale Brewer (D-Manhattan) Technology Aide Samuel Wong



Slashdot
New York MTA Asserts Copyright Over Schedule

(Note: Because of the popularity of Slashdot, traffic spiked enormously – make sure you read the over 345 COMMENTS!)

“Now the MTA is insisting he pay them to license the data, and at one point even accused the site of pretending to be an official MTA site.’ I can’t believe that this the MTA’s actions are going to go over well with the public.”



CNet
Who Owns Transit Data?

“In local blogs and on transit sites, outrage over agencies and companies that claim ownership of the data is growing. The core argument against locking down such data is that it’s collected by or paid for by public, taxpayer-funded agencies and thus should be open to all citizens, and that schedule data by itself is not protectable content.”



The Stamford Advocate
Blogger, MTA clash over train schedules on iPhone (Lead story!)

“There is a very good chance that what he is copying is not copyrightable…There is also the argument that the MTA is a semipublic entity and that there should be no copyright on the schedule information they provide.”

-Quinnipiac University School of Law professor John Morgan

“He is just finding a way to aggregate data that is already listed on the MTA Web site and share it with commuters … I think he has developed a great idea. More information for commuters is better. If the MTA is going to offer a similar service, that would be good, too. But, in the meantime, if someone else has taken the initiative, they shouldn’t crack down on him.”

-Jim Cameron of The Connecticut Rail Commuter Council



Stamford Advocate (Editorial)
MTA should lose copyright claim

“The entrepreneur says it would be oppressive to cough up that ($5000) sum up front, although he appears willing to agree to the 10 percent. The authority should go for it. Or, better yet, it should just leave him alone and let him make an honest buck by providing a useful service.”



Techdirt
NY MTA The Latest Public Transportation Group To Declare It Owns Facts

“It’s difficult to see how the MTA has much of a legal leg to stand on here, but they don’t seem to have a problem being a bully against a developer who’s actually helping riders have a better experience.”



WTNH-TV Channel 8
MTA Blogger Defends iPhone App

“Perhaps instead of spending time and money on lawyers to harass you, they should be spending time and money on things to make their customers happy. Things that make customers happy include better service, less crowded trains, more reliable service, and ease of acquiring schedules.”

-Commenter Patrick



Gadget Nomad
New York MTA: Railroad Schedules are Copyrighted

“When a company fights against common sense, money’s probably involved—or at least the impression that money can be made.”



Mediapost
Who Owns The Train Schedule?

“One would think the Metropolitan Transportation Authority would want commuters to be able to access schedule information from a variety of sources. One would be wrong.”



Gadgetseria
Entitlement and greed in the digital age never cease to amaze me…

“Again, instead of actually adapting to new technologies themselves and bringing some revolutionary application or service to the public, they’re (MTA) choosing to keep innovative and quite useful services from coming forward. Sadly, we yet again see another abuse and misinterpretation of the digital cancer that is the DMCA.”



The Business Insider
MTA Says iPhone App Maker Can’t Use Train Schedules Without Permission

Dz Comments: “Glad this is finally being brought out. MTA is completely backwards with regards to mobile schedules. Hopefully this will end in favor of the riders”



Greater Greater Washington
New York MTA threatens blogger, asserts copyright over schedule

“The MTA is blundering about and getting all this bad press because they look at the world in terms of deals, and figure that this thing going on pertaining to them ought to fit into that world. Unfortunately for them, data itself isn’t copyrightable, and as various experts tell the Stamford Advocate, most likely the MTA has no legal basis to stop the application.”



The Village Voice
iPhone App-Maker Publishes Train Schedules; MTA Demands a Cut

“It’s 83 degrees in New York right now. We wonder if we owe Apple any money.”



Greenwich Roundup
Greenwich Roundup – Your Tax Dollars At Work: Failed Metro North Executives Must Be On Drugs

“Would Someone Please Tell Failed MTA Metro-North President Howard Permut That…The MTA Timetable Is Public Information That Is Funded By The Taxpayers Of CT And NY…Ridiculous copyright policies strike again…”



WTIC-1080
Blogger Vs. MTA: Are Train Schedules Intellectual Property?



GoV-log
Are Train and Bus Schedules Copyrighted?

“The story has been picked up by the New York Times and is sure to receive further attention as the question of whether such data is or can be copyrighted is debated. Perhaps the bigger issue here is that if a third-party is doing a public service, and doing it well, should a government agency even pursue a copyright infringement claim, even if it is warranted?”



Connecticut News Channel 12
StationStops vs MTA




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3 responses so far ↓

  • 1 John Doer // Aug 31, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    So.. is it possible to receive news OTHER than this ongoing saga (while important) on this website? I do kind of miss that..

  • 2 Chris (Admin) // Aug 31, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    John,

    Actually I have been posting more than usual about other stuff too – Snow Leopard, M-8 Railcars,etc… but I’m sorry, defending myself against MTA litigation is my #1 priority right now.

    Feel free to tell the MTA to knock it off and I can get back to regularly scheduled programming!

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